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« on: July 21, 2003, 12:31:24 AM »

You know, it always seems that the needs of the many should outweigh the need of the one......yet there are topics and members here who feel, as the one, they need more than any other memeber.  This is a 'group'.  This is an HCV group.  I wish we could just keep it at that.......makes me sad to think this has turned into something else..........something spiteful or selfish.  

My recovery consists of dealing with this horrible battle with HCV...I would not know any of you if we didn't have that common bond...for that I am grateful.  To have some people who really listen, and who don't judge.  Thanks to all of you who have been there for me through the Hepatitis C.  
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2003, 03:27:41 AM »

By your complaints to management, you've won this issue. Isn't that enough?

This indeed is an HCV support group, not narcanon, so if someone makes a statement about the managed use of something for pain and stress we should all be able to read it for what it is, and we never have to agree on anything here, just keep it civil. Here, the needs of the many and the needs of the few are the same. We suffer, we have needs, we look for an answer. We are one. At least thats how it's supposed to be. Personally, I want to be able to help even the one who asks for it, even if his or her issues are not what I am used to dealing with here, or differ from my beliefs.

People who really listen and don't judge... yes, that's what we all look for here. But even you have been judgemental more than once. I don't judge you, I feel for you. I try over and over to clarify my point to help you see what I was saying, and you somehow avoid understanding it. I know that sometimes people never see beyond what they want to see, so I reach a point that I have to just try to diffuse the aggression and walk away.

Maybe I should have ignored your post. I don't know. I'm so tired I almost don't care anymore. But I still love you and all of the friends I've been blessed to find here. It's okay to disagree, and we never have to feel spite or selfishness here. That's not at all what this place is about. If you read my response to Glen, you'd see that I agreed with him to never post another word about the subject because I could see what he was having to go through dealing with complaints and division. It puts him in a very uncomfortable and awkward position.

From now on, why not deal with these differences of opinion in a more diplomatic way, and not make his life so difficult. Kindness always works so much better than aggression. What we all need to do when we so adamantly disagree is to stop a while, take a few long, deep breaths, and think calmly of how we can respond without so much anger. We're all having to go through the most stress filled time in our lives. No need to become so political over such trivia. Better to try to understand what is being said, even if we don't like it.

When you hear a controversial issue, and it irritates you, you never have to lash out with anger. You can reply with kindness and be the one who turns the other cheek, and you can still make a good point in opposition. Don't be the one who loses control. Everyone will feel a lot better, and we can all get along. Disagree with diplomacy.

God bless.
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2003, 06:12:28 AM »

Penny

Would you care to elaborate? I need to know what is going on. I have talked with glen but I want all sides of the story!

If you dont want to post it public, e mail me at dandan_54@hotmail.com
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2003, 11:22:32 AM »

Just to clarify.  I have NOT nor would I ever even think of "complaining" to "management".  I am a big girl, Joris, and can handle things like this by myself.  I really wish you would STOP assuming these kinds of things!!  You have no clue who I am or what I am about and your assumptions have led us nowhere......

We are typing....not talking.  You really have NO IDEA what I feel, think or say.....please stop telling everyone you do!

You are absolutely right.   We can disagree, and I certainly am agreeing that we are disagreeing.  No more needs to be said on that issue.  But, I would appreciate it if you could stop apologizing to others for me....and if you feel an apology (to anyone) is necessary, please keep the "us" and "we" out of it....

Look, I care about everyone on this site, including you.  We have common bond.  We are disagreeing.  Big deal.  But, please, can you just let it go and allow me to talk about it too without being all over it??

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2003, 12:57:55 PM »

I think all that needs to be said has been said.
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